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#1 snoopy

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:43 PM

I've just finished watching the following video:

Prior to this I uploaded two videos regarding feminism and equal rights.

Anyway, I was watching that video, and made a reply. Am I the only one shocked and horrified that such advertising is allowable?

I ask because compare the 'American Apparel' ad to the local New Zealand clothing outlet called 'Postie Plus':

http://catalogues.postie.co.nz/category.php?categoryId=35,34

Yes, a bevy of cliched photos but all of them tasteful and showing the clothes without any weird overtones.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:20 AM

The guy who just started a thread about running through the street naked is asking if he's too conservative?

I can't watch embedded vids on my phone. Can someone post a link so I can see what snoop's talking about?

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:44 AM

No G, you dont wanna see it. It really is sick.
I'm just trying to forget what I saw. Gaaagh.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 06:48 PM

The little girl in the leotard and tights....

I gather the girl making comments has never taken a dance class.

Now the little boy in shorts that is not appropriate, the rest ... I don't see a problem. This woman has never been around children, and has no clue as to how kids act.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 03:42 AM

QUOTE (Fathima @ Jul 23 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No G, you dont wanna see it. It really is sick.
I'm just trying to forget what I saw. Gaaagh.

Same here; at least I'm not the only one.

QUOTE (LadyGarnetRose @ Jul 24 2010, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Compare those to the one on 'Postie Plus' - there is a fine line crossed in the case of American Apparel.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:49 PM

I don't know, Snoop. I'm a pretty tame moderate, and children's issues and safety is one area I definitely lean to the right. I have a 7 year old son, so the over-protective paranoia comes hard-wired with me. That said, I thought she was fairly stretching things here. She lost me when she made the statement around 4:42 that kids don't "lay around on the floor, kicking, looking all careless." What kind of docile children does she hang around?

My son absolutely did stuff like that at age 2, 3, 4, 5, and weirder, crazier things. Kids emulate what they see on T.V. Boys will strike a "tough man" pose while playing, and girls will strike model poses in their play. I observe this type of behavior all the time at my son's school. That's nothing new, and yes, it is part of the sucky socialized, gender-normative, sexualized behavior I wish would be stimatized, rather than reinforced. But it's hardly an anamoly, or out-of-character for kids, as the narrator implies.

That she is righteously downing American Apparel for capitalizing on a very widespread, well-established phenomenon of children emulating more adult-like behaviors just made her come off sounding churlish to me. And a bit naive. I don't disagree with her that the clothes are ugly (god, are they), but I'm much too worried about children dying of AIDS in Africa, and child prostitutes living and dying in slums all over the world for this to even rate more than an eyeroll from me.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:27 AM

QUOTE (Trillian @ Jul 24 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What kind of docile children does she hang around?

At a dinner gathering at my friends house they put their son to bed, and we were gathered in the living room talking...

1/2 an hour goes by, and he comes running out in a pair of his father's boots (his dad is in the army) and his superman cape not a stitch more ... screaming, "I'm naked boy!" did one circuit of the living room then ran right back up the stairs...

Kids... do some weird things at times.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:32 AM

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My grandson was there????? LOL

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (spike @ Jul 26 2010, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My grandson was there????? LOL

HAHAHAHA! I missed having coffee all of the monitor by sheer luck

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (LadyGarnetRose @ Jul 27 2010, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

True; I used to get dressed up in girls clothes when I was young - not that it has had any effect on me lol

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:02 AM

QUOTE (snoopy @ Jul 26 2010, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

True; I used to get dressed up in girls clothes when I was young - not that it has had any effect on me lol

I can see you in a pretty pretty princess outfit ... and now I need to go gouge my eyes out

lol

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:47 AM

QUOTE (LadyGarnetRose @ Jul 27 2010, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I can see you in a pretty pretty princess outfit ... and now I need to go gouge my eyes out

lol

Awww *hugs* its ok, my female friend at school - all her male friends have turned out to be gay

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (snoopy @ Jul 27 2010, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Awww *hugs* its ok, my female friend at school - all her male friends have turned out to be gay

Wow, the odds of that are astounding ...

Please don't take offense, but that might be a pocket of prime research right there.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (LadyGarnetRose @ Jul 28 2010, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wow, the odds of that are astounding ...

Please don't take offense, but that might be a pocket of prime research right there.

No offence taken - I wonder whether there is something there

I'd love to do research on it - straight females and their gay friends lol

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (snoopy @ Jul 27 2010, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Awww *hugs* its ok, my female friend at school - all her male friends have turned out to be gay

Gay friends are awesome.

And I have a young friend who is the supremeo of trans-dresser costume designers. He creates costumes for contests that will knock your eyes out. He's adorable, kind, caring, funny and any mother's dream son .. a registered nurse by profession.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (spike @ Jul 28 2010, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

On the topic of a-typical gender behaviour, my niece is celebrating her birthday today - has no interest in girly frilly things, she likes Thomas the Tank-engine and Handy Mandy - she even has her own little tool kit. My mum tried to purchase some girly stuff but Melanie had no interest in it lol

Now I wonder how things will work out in 15 years time lol a clue to her future life? lol

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE (LadyGarnetRose @ Jul 24 2010, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I gather the girl making comments has never taken a dance class.

Now the little boy in shorts that is not appropriate, the rest ... I don't see a problem. This woman has never been around children, and has no clue as to how kids act.

Me ??

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